In episode five, I interview my very favorite human being of all the human beings there are alive on the planet. Generally, when I’m preparing to record a podcast there are some logistic questions. Am I going to travel to where they live? [I’ve done that… I flew to New York recently to interview Andrew Horn and Mickey Agarwal, I drove to Southen California for Daniel Schmachtenberger]. Can they come to me? Or are we going to record using zoom? This was the one interview when none of those questions were necessary. I was interviewing the extraordinary wonderful human being who sleeps on the other side of my bed.
Have you ever seen those shorter videos on social media where very handicapped people learn to do ordinary things? You can watch a video for five minutes of someone brushing their teeth, making it downstairs, making breakfast and even going out to buy groceries. All of this is completely gripping and fascinating when the subject of the video has no arms and legs. Then it is heroic! Extraordinary! A triumph of human nature. I never thought that I would be able to love: fully and deeply and without restraint in this lifetime. There was too much conditioning from my family weighing me down. But seventeen years ago, I met someone who had the same aspiration: to learn to love, despite the odds. We agreed to enter into an experiment together: to practice love. Here is our report.
11:18 — An experiment in love / Committing to something deeper
20:22 — Exposed! / Radical honesty
27:38 — Starting over every day / A fresh trembling attempt at allowing love to take over
35:00 — Universal love, polyamory, or monogamy? / Commitment as a portal into freedom
46:36 — Committing to love itself
53:40 — Greatest challenge of relationship / the demons we face in achieving deeper love